Sugababes on Getting Back Together, Teenage Fame and New Music #166 — Hold My Drink

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[01:15–01:18] This week, we are beyond excited.
[01:18–01:22] Yeah, my ten year old self playing Singstar.
[01:22–01:23] Oh, she's screaming.
[01:23–01:24] Singing round round.
[01:24–01:25] She's screaming inside.
[01:25–01:30] We have probably one of the most iconic girl groups.
[01:30–01:31] The showroom.
[01:31–01:32] Woohoo!
[01:32–01:33] I'm screaming.
[01:33–01:34] Like I'm trying not to.
[01:34–01:36] I'm screaming.
[01:36–01:37] Wow.
[01:37–01:39] My only loose memory is like a plain Singstar.
[01:39–01:40] And I used to sing round round.
[01:40–01:41] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[01:41–01:42] And I used to be so at.
[01:42–01:45] I couldn't ever get the exact points for the verse.
[01:45–01:46] It just wouldn't.
[01:46–01:47] Wouldn't click.
[01:47–01:48] Yeah.
[01:48–01:49] No, I was definitely in primary school.
[01:49–01:51] And I remember I was trying to be the leader to everyone else.
[01:51–01:53] Like I was trying to be the good dancer.
[01:53–01:55] Ten year old me singing freak like me.
[01:55–01:56] Oh, yeah.
[01:56–01:57] Oh, yeah.
[01:57–01:58] I never realized that it's not.
[01:58–01:59] No, no, no.
[01:59–02:00] It's not true.
[02:00–02:01] It's not true.
[02:01–02:02] It's not true at all.
[02:02–02:03] No.
[02:03–02:04] Yeah, I can't.
[02:04–02:05] We love it.
[02:05–02:07] We wonder how did it first meet and form the group?
[02:07–02:09] And where did the name come from, was it?
[02:09–02:10] Oh, my gosh.
[02:10–02:11] It's.
[02:11–02:12] It's cast.
[02:12–02:13] I'm on to be there.
[02:13–02:15] So, Mitya and I grew up together.
[02:15–02:17] So we've known each other since we were like eight years old.
[02:18–02:22] And I guess Mitya and Shivam were recording in the studio.
[02:22–02:27] They kind of got introduced through like mutual friends and stuff when they were probably about 1211.
[02:27–02:30] 1211 12 and they were recording.
[02:30–02:31] And.
[02:31–02:32] Oh, my God.
[02:32–02:34] And I.
[02:34–02:37] Mitya asked me one day to come with her to studio after school.
[02:37–02:38] I went there.
[02:38–02:41] We all met each other for the first time.
[02:41–02:45] And then someone said, oh, you know how that you guys sing together at school.
[02:45–02:47] Asked me to sing something.
[02:47–02:48] I sang.
[02:48–02:50] And then we recorded a song together that day.
[02:50–02:52] And then that was pretty much it.
[02:52–02:55] But yeah, it was literally after school.
[02:55–02:58] Yeah, it was like literally an after school activity.
[02:58–03:01] It was like, yeah, going to shoot you off to school recording.
[03:01–03:02] And then we just.
[03:02–03:05] And I'd say even after age, though, you're never at heart like years down the line.
[03:05–03:07] It would be what it is now.
[03:07–03:08] I don't.
[03:08–03:09] I do.
[03:09–03:10] Yeah.
[03:10–03:11] Yeah.
[03:11–03:15] And then when you think about it, it's like it's your whole life.
[03:15–03:16] Yeah.
[03:16–03:19] And when you think back to now, like you look at 12, you're older.
[03:19–03:22] If some of that age are you like we were like babies looking back.
[03:22–03:23] Yeah, that's the thing.
[03:23–03:31] But I think it's also a good thing because I think you can kind of put it into perspective, especially because we've got like young nieces and like nephews and stuff.
[03:31–03:33] And it's just like, oh my God, these are children.
[03:33–03:34] Yeah, I didn't imagine.
[03:34–03:35] Yeah.
[03:35–03:40] And so it actually just makes you think like, oh my God, like imagine like having the confidence to be able to go out there.
[03:40–03:43] I'm like, I'm starting in four years.
[03:43–03:44] Yeah.
[03:44–03:45] Yeah.
[03:45–03:49] And yeah, I do say to my mum like, what was that like?
[03:49–03:50] Because obviously for her.
[03:50–03:51] Yeah.
[03:51–03:53] And she was just like, what you wanted to sing?
[03:53–03:56] And you know, I don't think our parents, because our parents aren't showbiz parents.
[03:56–03:58] So they would like to sing.
[03:58–04:05] So we also have parents had like they had full-time jobs, but then they also, you know, were our guardians.
[04:05–04:07] So they would drive us to the studio.
[04:07–04:11] They would say to all hours and then go and do their shift work and stuff.
[04:11–04:13] And like they made a lot of sacrifices for us to do.
[04:13–04:14] Of course.
[04:14–04:15] Yeah.
[04:15–04:16] So someone always had to be there.
[04:16–04:18] We used to have that age.
[04:18–04:19] Yeah.
[04:19–04:20] Yeah.
[04:20–04:23] Was it that age that like labels hurt coming in things or you had your label straight away?
[04:23–04:24] Yeah.
[04:24–04:26] I think it was kind of 13.
[04:26–04:27] 13.
[04:27–04:28] 13.
[04:28–04:31] When you think of that net, like that's so young.
[04:31–04:32] Very young.
[04:32–04:33] Yeah.
[04:33–04:34] Well, like amazing as well.
[04:34–04:39] And the other hand, it's the God that they said, 13, like, yeah, well, and it's nice because
[04:39–04:40] they believed in us.
[04:40–04:41] Of course.
[04:41–04:43] But I mean, yeah, well, we're here now.
[04:43–04:44] It was London, right?
[04:44–04:46] The most I really like that they were.
[04:46–04:47] Yeah.
[04:47–04:50] They had, you know, an amazing vision for us.
[04:50–04:53] And really let us have our creative freedom.
[04:53–04:55] So that's a really nice experience with her.
[04:55–04:59] Was it like, was it like, dancing to be in a room with like, sort of older people?
[04:59–05:00] Yeah.
[05:00–05:06] So funny because when I look at some pictures, I'm like, oh my God, it's like, I think you
[05:06–05:07] have seen a live.
[05:07–05:08] It really is.
[05:08–05:13] I feel like it was, I just always remember thinking like, what was the big deal?
[05:13–05:19] I remember the making such a fuss over the fact that we weren't, that we weren't polished.
[05:19–05:21] You know, a lot of the band's hot bands at the time.
[05:21–05:23] They were way more polished than us.
[05:23–05:27] And we were kind of a bit like more scrappy and a bit more sort of like not media.
[05:27–05:28] Just not media-driven.
[05:28–05:29] Not real.
[05:29–05:33] And so I remember that being made a big deal and the fact that we didn't smile, or we
[05:33–05:35] did smile, but we didn't smile in pictures.
[05:35–05:39] I remember that being like very cool or whatever it was at the time.
[05:39–05:43] And we were like, oh, we're just doing what we all do with our mates and stuff.
[05:43–05:47] So yeah, I don't think, I don't think we ever wanted to be like famous.
[05:47–05:51] I don't think we ever looked it in that way, but we just really enjoyed like that.
[05:51–05:53] Yeah, you ever do something you love?
[05:53–05:54] Yeah.
[05:54–05:55] We just came easy to you.
[05:55–05:57] And who's taking the credit for the name Sugar Books?
[05:58–06:01] So our first manager used to call us Sugar Babies.
[06:01–06:02] Sugar Babies.
[06:02–06:03] But that was taken by Bjork.
[06:03–06:04] Oh, yeah.
[06:04–06:06] Oh, I'm pretty sure, yeah.
[06:06–06:09] And then there was a choir in America.
[06:09–06:10] Well, we were babies.
[06:10–06:11] I think it was all kind of.
[06:11–06:14] We weren't a bum for it anyway, because the moment he was like, my little Sugar Babies,
[06:14–06:17] and he'd be saying that we were like, we were friends with our friends, we weren't.
[06:17–06:19] Yeah, we were like, cool.
[06:19–06:24] So we were like, no, we want Babes if it's gonna have to go with that name.
[06:25–06:29] Because I think we obviously knew at some point we're gonna grow into women.
[06:29–06:33] So, you know, having the word Sugar Babies could possibly just be.
[06:33–06:34] Yeah.
[06:34–06:35] Yeah.
[06:35–06:36] Have to be a name, like kind of terrifying.
[06:36–06:37] For your life though, as well.
[06:37–06:38] Yeah.
[06:38–06:41] I made beats with it, because I think when you think of other bad names, some of them are just ridiculous.
[06:41–06:42] But you don't.
[06:42–06:43] You just don't think about that.
[06:43–06:44] Yeah.
[06:44–06:45] Even like the Rolling Stones.
[06:45–06:46] Like, who, who came with it?
[06:46–06:47] Who came with it?
[06:47–06:48] It's amazing, but like, what does it mean?
[06:48–06:49] Yeah.
[06:49–06:50] Yeah.
[06:50–06:51] You know, a load of Rolling Stones.
[06:51–06:52] I don't know.
[06:52–06:54] I was listening to an interview that cute.
[06:54–06:58] I think it was you had you don't on radio and you were saying that at one point you were
[06:58–07:02] getting like two and a half hours a seat, but night your schedules were that unpacked.
[07:02–07:04] Like, what was that time like for you?
[07:04–07:06] It was especially at that age.
[07:06–07:07] It was that a little bit later on that.
[07:07–07:08] Yeah.
[07:08–07:11] Well, it became the norm really, because we didn't know any different.
[07:11–07:15] And we would just be given our schedule for the year.
[07:15–07:18] And I remember we would have Christmas Day off, like Box Day.
[07:18–07:21] I think it was a lot easier with the line up with Shabbon, because we can't.
[07:21–07:25] We could hide behind age, because I think then we could only work like 72 hours.
[07:25–07:26] 72 days.
[07:26–07:27] Or something.
[07:27–07:30] It was something that we couldn't work like before.
[07:30–07:32] We never actually did that.
[07:32–07:33] No.
[07:33–07:37] Because we used to do breakfast TV at 6am and then we would be playing like G.A.Y.
[07:37–07:38] One or four years.
[07:38–07:40] But still, we couldn't do a line up.
[07:40–07:41] There was a lot of secret things going on.
[07:41–07:43] Obviously, there was no social media there.
[07:43–07:44] Yeah.
[07:44–07:47] I think it really took on like a whole life of its own.
[07:47–07:51] You know, between the ages of like 17 upwards, it just became this huge
[07:51–07:52] storm.
[07:52–07:54] And obviously the brand was getting bigger and bigger.
[07:54–07:56] And yeah, it was a lot.
[07:56–07:59] And we didn't know that we had much of a say as such.
[07:59–08:00] Yeah.
[08:00–08:02] Because I think they allowed us to just continue being creative.
[08:02–08:03] Yeah.
[08:03–08:06] And so we didn't realize actually you can say, need a second.
[08:06–08:07] Yeah.
[08:07–08:08] Yeah.
[08:08–08:09] So yeah, cool down time.
[08:09–08:12] It was through so, which is why we're kind of enjoying it now, because we have.
[08:12–08:13] Yeah.
[08:13–08:18] And it's just nice to be able to look at our schedule and be asked like,
[08:18–08:19] girls, do you want to do this?
[08:19–08:20] Yeah.
[08:20–08:21] That's what.
[08:21–08:22] Yeah.
[08:22–08:23] Yeah.
[08:23–08:24] That's what I'm talking about.
[08:24–08:25] Yeah.
[08:25–08:26] You have like full control of like everything you do.
[08:26–08:27] So we want to be here to do that.
[08:27–08:28] Yeah.
[08:28–08:29] Yeah.
[08:29–08:31] We're letting you do it.
[08:31–08:32] There's not force to be here.
[08:32–08:33] Yeah.
[08:33–08:36] What would you say then is like a highlight of your career?
[08:36–08:39] It's been like switching arrays and iconic time.
[08:39–08:41] Well, it's like the best thing that stands out here.
[08:41–08:47] We've had a couple of like amazing glass and re moment in the last couple of years.
[08:47–08:53] Like we played the Avalon stage and it wasn't until like moments before we took
[08:53–08:57] to stage it that we were getting taught like the signs for if people are in like to
[08:57–09:00] stress because there's so many people in it they've had to shut down.
[09:00–09:03] not just like the 10 or the field,
[09:03–09:05] but like the entire area that had to coordinate a whole lot.
[09:05–09:07] They can all bring all extra security in.
[09:07–09:09] And we were like, for who?
[09:09–09:10] Yeah.
[09:10–09:12] And then it happened two years later.
[09:12–09:15] Like my niece, you know, your niece,
[09:15–09:16] much is daughter winner.
[09:16–09:19] And they were like, this is like half an hour before,
[09:19–09:20] there was no one out there.
[09:20–09:21] There was like, no, no.
[09:21–09:21] Oh, no.
[09:21–09:23] And our teenage was like, yeah, we took a picture
[09:23–09:26] and we were like, this on see, no one's there.
[09:26–09:30] 20 minutes later, one in one hour and then we shot down.
[09:30–09:32] I mean, yeah, those are amazing.
[09:32–09:33] I would say one that, like for me,
[09:33–09:36] the biggest highlight was getting our name back.
[09:36–09:38] Because many people don't know that we first came back
[09:38–09:41] like over 10 years ago under the name MKS.
[09:41–09:44] And it was a real struggle for us for a long time.
[09:44–09:47] We, you know, we were signed by a major off back
[09:47–09:50] as soon as they had we got back together.
[09:50–09:53] And then, you know, we were thankfully let go by them
[09:53–09:55] because we didn't want to be there anyway.
[09:55–09:58] And yeah, but yeah, it was really hard.
[09:58–10:00] And then having to, you know, fight for the name
[10:00–10:03] that we actually came up with and having all these obstacles
[10:03–10:05] that people go through in the industry,
[10:05–10:07] we had to really have a lot of patience.
[10:07–10:10] And, you know, it's been so rewarding
[10:10–10:12] to obviously be embracing this way.
[10:12–10:14] This is basically the reason why we got back together.
[10:14–10:16] So that we could actually enjoy it.
[10:16–10:19] And also just like kind of rewrite history in a way.
[10:19–10:22] Because I feel like this was like our baby as such.
[10:22–10:25] And then people just came in over the years, you know,
[10:25–10:27] adults and just made it something different.
[10:27–10:30] So it's been so rewarding to have like, you know,
[10:30–10:33] the support that we've had from everyone and our fans.
[10:33–10:36] And yeah, and some people, you know, they try that hard
[10:36–10:39] and it does feel like you're climbing a mountain.
[10:39–10:41] And it doesn't get to this point.
[10:41–10:42] Yeah.
[10:42–10:44] Because the industry is that hard.
[10:44–10:45] So I think that we are just so grateful
[10:45–10:48] that we were able to get the name back
[10:48–10:50] and like really smash it over the past three, four years.
[10:50–10:51] Yeah.
[10:51–10:52] It's not lost in us that that's the reason.
[10:52–10:53] That's why it was great.
[10:53–10:54] Today and back.
[10:54–10:55] Yeah.
[10:55–10:56] Yeah.
[10:56–10:57] Yeah.
[10:57–10:58] To it all over again.
[10:58–10:59] We did hear that you hate the word reunion.
[10:59–11:00] I did.
[11:00–11:01] Yeah.
[11:01–11:02] Why do you hate it?
[11:02–11:05] I think it feels like the end of everything new.
[11:05–11:06] Okay.
[11:06–11:09] Whereas we're constantly putting new stuff into the set.
[11:09–11:13] We imagine in the songs we've got an incredible MD musical director
[11:13–11:16] that we work with who's also the MD for Stormzy.
[11:16–11:20] You know, we've got a whole new album that we will be releasing now
[11:20–11:22] after the first single, Jungle.
[11:22–11:26] And so I think reunion maybe means not doing those things.
[11:26–11:27] Yeah.
[11:27–11:28] That's perfect explanation.
[11:28–11:29] That's a very nice point.
[11:29–11:30] Yeah.
[11:30–11:34] How was the music industry changed since when you first started?
[11:34–11:36] Like now, what like social media being such a big thing?
[11:36–11:39] Like when you promote your songs, like is it so different now
[11:39–11:40] to how you used to do it?
[11:40–11:41] Yeah.
[11:41–11:44] I think it's, I personally think it's very different.
[11:44–11:47] I mean, I'm kind of happy that we didn't have all of the
[11:47–11:51] Instagrams and the Facebooks and all that back then.
[11:51–11:55] I think you've been pretty messy to be honest.
[11:55–11:57] I think we're able to buy it.
[11:57–11:58] Yeah.
[11:58–11:59] We're physically happy.
[11:59–12:03] Everyone would go there and be like queuing up listening.
[12:03–12:04] For a CD and listening.
[12:04–12:07] I think for anyone who's at like a certain age now, you can kind of
[12:07–12:10] be thankful that at one point in your childhood we didn't have any of that.
[12:10–12:15] And it was nice to actually be able to be a, like, be a child, a re-18 age or whatever.
[12:15–12:16] Yeah.
[12:16–12:18] And here bring your social camera to it.
[12:18–12:19] Yeah.
[12:19–12:21] And the cameras are actually back in.
[12:21–12:22] Yeah.
[12:22–12:23] Yeah.
[12:23–12:24] And everyone thinks it's a new thing.
[12:24–12:26] And I'm like, I'm about five of them in my house.
[12:26–12:27] Yeah.
[12:27–12:28] I got mine on eBay and the price.
[12:28–12:29] The most, I go, should I cap my old ones?
[12:29–12:30] They're all gone.
[12:30–12:31] Yeah.
[12:31–12:32] Yeah.
[12:32–12:33] And it's in perks though.
[12:33–12:34] Yeah.
[12:34–12:35] I know I was going to send lots of postcards.
[12:35–12:36] There is.
[12:36–12:37] Yeah.
[12:37–12:40] There is, like, I feel like back then you had to be signed otherwise it was like
[12:40–12:41] a really signed one.
[12:41–12:45] But like, yeah, because if you didn't have a label, like what were you going to do?
[12:45–12:46] Yeah.
[12:46–12:48] And it was like, and you had to be like a top five.
[12:48–12:49] Like, at least.
[12:49–12:52] But like now it's just like you can just turn out all your hits.
[12:52–12:53] You can be in the studio.
[12:53–12:54] Yeah.
[12:54–12:55] I feel like putting out a song.
[12:55–12:56] Yeah.
[12:56–12:57] And you can actually be a part of it.
[12:57–12:58] Just have control.
[12:58–12:59] You've got more control.
[12:59–13:04] And the way people consume music now, you know, like, yeah, I talked to my 16 year old niece.
[13:04–13:07] Like she was trying to introduce me to the cocktail twins.
[13:07–13:08] Like it was a new band.
[13:08–13:12] And I was like, no, like Liz Fraser's one of my favorite singers ever.
[13:12–13:15] And I'm pretty sure she's in her 60s and it's not new.
[13:15–13:16] But I love that.
[13:16–13:18] And she doesn't know what decade things are from.
[13:18–13:22] She's just finding all the best music from history.
[13:22–13:23] Yeah.
[13:23–13:28] And instead of just being forced, like, you know, the same five songs, everything, whatever.
[13:28–13:30] So it's I think it's really exciting.
[13:30–13:32] It really, like our thing is to snarl.
[13:32–13:34] It's good for anyone.
[13:34–13:40] For being so young and being in the spotlight, did you ever wish has had a normal life?
[13:40–13:41] Grown off.
[13:41–13:42] Oh my God.
[13:42–13:45] I always used to think what would have done if I wasn't singing.
[13:45–13:52] To be honest, I feel like it's hard to even imagine that now because we have all grown up in the industry.
[13:52–13:57] It's hard for me to be saying that because I stepped away from having completed different career.
[13:57–14:00] I was a model booker for 10 years and I loved it.
[14:00–14:02] I loved the camaraderie around the table.
[14:02–14:08] I loved looking after all the new faces that came in because it reminded me of traveling when I was so young with the label.
[14:08–14:10] I needed that to score as well, chef as well.
[14:10–14:11] And I like you.
[14:11–14:12] I like you.
[14:12–14:13] Ask all of us together.
[14:13–14:14] Because we're there.
[14:14–14:16] I only own it for my exams for like a week.
[14:16–14:19] But we had like private tuition all of us together.
[14:19–14:20] And then when it came school.
[14:20–14:21] Yeah.
[14:21–14:24] And then afterwards like, Shavon's school was so kind.
[14:24–14:28] I was like, yeah, you know, you can kind of ask us like, no, sorry.
[14:28–14:29] The spaces have been taken.
[14:29–14:30] Yeah.
[14:30–14:32] But they've got a really bad feeling.
[14:32–14:33] That was really mean.
[14:33–14:34] Yeah.
[14:34–14:37] That was probably because we actually wanted to go back to go and finish off.
[14:37–14:38] Oh.
[14:38–14:39] And yeah.
[14:39–14:41] And then I came back and sit my exam.
[14:41–14:42] So that was that was nice.
[14:42–14:43] Wow.
[14:43–14:44] Yeah.
[14:44–14:45] We're going back then.
[14:45–14:46] Yeah.
[14:46–14:47] I tell you what was weird.
[14:47–14:48] I'd been taught for the wrong board.
[14:48–14:49] Oh, so yeah.
[14:49–14:53] So I had to just kind of just throw myself in and didn't know what I was doing.
[14:53–14:54] But yeah.
[14:54–14:55] Oh, it's okay.
[14:55–14:56] I still pass.
[14:56–14:57] Yeah.
[14:57–14:58] What's the cause in it?
[14:58–14:59] Is it an essay?
[14:59–15:00] No, SETs that you do?
[15:00–15:01] GCC.
[15:01–15:02] Yeah.
[15:02–15:03] Yeah.
[15:03–15:04] I had to complete each difference.
[15:04–15:05] Oh, the whole.
[15:05–15:06] Anyone talks about it?
[15:06–15:07] Yeah.
[15:07–15:08] I guess that was confused.
[15:08–15:13] So obviously not having that normal life, I suppose, was so different for you.
[15:13–15:14] So like, what did your day say?
[15:14–15:17] I looked like at like age 15, say, like 16.
[15:17–15:26] When everyone else in school, I think it was really hard because very quickly, I guess we learned that we didn't have much in common with our peers.
[15:26–15:30] I remember that shift and I personally struggled with it quite a lot.
[15:30–15:33] Just because I felt like I was still like a kid.
[15:33–15:36] So it's almost like then you're taking out of that environment.
[15:36–15:39] You're brought into like a new environment with adults.
[15:39–15:46] And in my mind, I was still doing childlike things when I went back to my friends and they were like,
[15:46–15:48] oh, so we did this now.
[15:48–15:49] And I was like, what?
[15:49–15:51] And I was like, but what about the kiss?
[15:51–15:53] And they were like, kiss, go, we've moved on for the kiss.
[15:53–15:54] We've moved on for the kiss.
[15:54–15:55] Yeah.
[15:55–15:56] I was like, what?
[15:56–15:58] So it kind of like kept you a little bit like later.
[15:58–16:06] And also, I think it was really difficult because I remember going out and just going to like the movies and things like that.
[16:06–16:10] And then, you know, sometimes other teenagers weren't very kind.
[16:10–16:16] And also as well, depending on sort of like what, because the press back then were very brutal.
[16:16–16:22] So depending on sort of like what you, what the press would say about you or how they felt about you.
[16:22–16:26] Then you would then go out, you could be by yourself or you'd be surrounded by teenagers.
[16:26–16:32] So that was really difficult because then your people wanted to see like, are you that tough?
[16:32–16:37] And then they, you know, so there was a lot of incidents where it was kind of hard.
[16:37–16:40] And then you didn't feel like I felt quite lonely actually.
[16:40–16:44] And we didn't change, but the people around you did, that was all right.
[16:44–16:46] Those are the different lights.
[16:46–16:50] Yeah, I'm just not going to relate to you or anything.
[16:50–16:52] But it's almost like you're not a person.
[16:52–16:54] It's like you're either up there and it's amazing.
[16:54–16:59] just like you know can't have just like a regular chat with you or it's like who do you think you are?
[16:59–17:04] Yeah and it's like one of one of the other and you're like oh no I just want to like do small talk
[17:04–17:11] I know like yeah you want to be able to have a hope like you know yeah so it was the people around
[17:11–17:14] you are changed towards you it was really yeah but you know what I like to do then
[17:14–17:20] throughout really quickly you learn like you know to gravitate towards your tribe
[17:20–17:25] yeah find your people and you hang on to them for dear life yeah and my mom gave me the
[17:25–17:30] best advice because I remember one time I was like super down super carmiser and my mom said
[17:30–17:36] you have got to learn to enjoy your own company oh yeah and that was a game changer for me
[17:36–17:39] and she just explained to me that if you look because you're with yourself for the rest of your
[17:39–17:44] life like you're on brand you know you're you've got to learn to be able to enjoy your company and
[17:44–17:49] from that moment there I still take myself on dates I will go and I will have like you know I
[17:49–17:55] go cinema by myself this is not an everyday thing but I do it and I actually like to enjoy it
[17:56–18:00] yeah and I give that advice to like so many people like whenever I am
[18:00–18:01] I don't have time.
[18:01–18:03] Oh, I love it.
[18:03–18:04] I love it.
[18:04–18:05] I love that.
[18:05–18:06] It's really nice.
[18:06–18:14] And girl groups, I think anyway, and maybe you think back in the day, we're definitely
[18:14–18:15] more common than now.
[18:15–18:17] Do you think there's a reason for that now or?
[18:17–18:23] I think that there's seen as being by labels.
[18:23–18:26] I don't know if you'd say that, it's being really expensive.
[18:26–18:29] And I think that that is maybe a barrier.
[18:29–18:34] I also think that there's not an awful lot of artist development that I see going on
[18:34–18:36] at the moment.
[18:36–18:38] You know what's so crazy about this industry?
[18:38–18:40] Because all it does is it takes one.
[18:40–18:45] Because the moment someone gets a number one smash hit, you'll see about 50 labels lining
[18:45–18:50] up with 100 girl bands to basically do the same thing.
[18:50–18:56] And so, yeah, artist development definitely is a lack in majorly.
[18:56–19:01] And yeah, definitely the expense thing, because with girls, it's hair and makeup.
[19:01–19:03] I never thought I would have known.
[19:03–19:04] I would have known.
[19:04–19:06] And it's multiple people, I just want.
[19:06–19:09] But even boy bands, I feel like kids these days are really bad.
[19:09–19:10] Oh, I'm a boy.
[19:10–19:11] I'm a boy.
[19:11–19:14] I think we're pretty low fire, actually.
[19:14–19:19] When you hear about the scenarios and stuff, I think we're pretty low maintenance.
[19:19–19:20] Yeah.
[19:20–19:22] Would you do your own glamour hair and things ever sometimes?
[19:22–19:23] Sometimes, sometimes.
[19:23–19:24] Yeah.
[19:24–19:26] You're really so good at that now.
[19:26–19:29] If it's needed, you know, we can do it.
[19:29–19:35] Yeah, we definitely, I mean, just because of the time now that the things that are in
[19:35–19:40] our schedule, we do have like two hair stylists and occasionally we might like for jungle,
[19:40–19:45] for example, we had when we're doing the shoot, we had to have to make up on it.
[19:45–19:46] To make up our own.
[19:46–19:47] Is that time?
[19:47–19:48] Yeah.
[19:48–19:51] But then on the flip side, we'll be at a festival where we're all there like steaming
[19:51–19:52] our own clothes.
[19:52–19:53] Yeah.
[19:53–19:54] Yeah, one way or another.
[19:54–19:56] You know, it's quite nice just to do your own thing.
[19:56–19:57] Yeah.
[19:57–19:58] Not be scrapped.
[19:58–19:59] People fussing, you know, just do that.
[19:59–20:00] Yeah, I don't know.
[20:00–20:02] I know, you've got many hands touching as well.
[20:02–20:03] Yeah.
[20:03–20:04] Can you be annoying?
[20:04–20:05] Yeah.
[20:05–20:06] Yeah.
[20:06–20:07] Yeah.
[20:07–20:08] It's a bit over, over.
[20:08–20:09] Over, over.
[20:09–20:10] How do you think you've changed as artists as time's gone on like through the years, like
[20:10–20:14] with your sound, with like music genres that you like, you want to dig into, like, has
[20:14–20:16] that evolved as you've gotten?
[20:16–20:18] I feel like not on all four letters changed.
[20:18–20:19] No.
[20:19–20:22] I think what has changed is our confidence levels.
[20:22–20:26] And when you have like real synergy with who you're working with, for example, like John
[20:26–20:30] Shafe, the producer we did jungle with, and we've done a lot of the new album with him,
[20:30–20:31] actually.
[20:31–20:35] And he's most famous for like most recently doing like a lot of the Charlie X, the X,
[20:35–20:36] Brad album.
[20:36–20:37] Wow.
[20:37–20:40] I think that when you have that synergy, like the minute we met him and worked with him,
[20:40–20:41] we just got it.
[20:41–20:45] He loved all our, you know, like opinions in the room because he's just like, it's just
[20:45–20:47] creativity that we're throwing around.
[20:47–20:50] Whereas sometimes you go into settings and people just don't want that.
[20:50–20:51] You go.
[20:51–20:53] Oh, that's really a vibe killer.
[20:53–20:54] Yeah.
[20:54–20:55] Yeah.
[20:55–21:00] So again, it's just about finding your people and like, you know, the synergy getting that
[21:00–21:01] right with someone in there.
[21:01–21:02] Yeah.
[21:02–21:04] Stick with them.
[21:04–21:08] Would there be a peak thing in your head, like a tough note that comes into your head?
[21:08–21:11] If you had like younger you sitting in front of you.
[21:11–21:16] So the three years at 12 or 13 sitting in front of you, is there a one little piece of advice
[21:16–21:17] that you tell the three of you?
[21:17–21:24] I always say to just enjoy because I think now that I now that we're a little bit more
[21:24–21:27] grown, more a little bit older, I'm enjoying myself.
[21:27–21:28] Yeah.
[21:28–21:29] Yeah.
[21:29–21:33] And I think back then I felt like I was being very serious, not too serious, but I kind
[21:33–21:38] of just went to work and just and didn't acknowledge when we had number one's when we
[21:38–21:41] were touring, when we were traveling different parts of the world.
[21:41–21:43] So now I'm like, I'm excited.
[21:43–21:44] Yeah.
[21:44–21:45] Yeah.
[21:45–21:46] Absolutely.
[21:46–21:47] That's right.
[21:47–21:52] I think the most challenging time in your journey as a group and how did you overcome it?
[21:52–21:56] I mean, what's time do we want to talk about?
[21:56–22:00] I think when you're talking about a career over such a long time, I think it's natural
[22:00–22:06] that there's been like changes and I think the most challenging like for us three, I
[22:06–22:09] would say I feel like it was the MKS.
[22:09–22:10] Yeah.
[22:10–22:12] That was so hard.
[22:12–22:17] That was so, so hard because we didn't have the infrastructure around us and we didn't
[22:17–22:21] have the support of the industry at that time and we didn't have the name.
[22:21–22:22] Yeah.
[22:22–22:27] And we were trying to book shows and even though we were doing one, yeah, we're less
[22:27–22:28] we had.
[22:28–22:29] Yeah.
[22:29–22:31] And even though we were doing sell out, we had a sell out tour and there was a lot of
[22:31–22:35] like things that we were every time someone would throw a challenge at us, we'd be like,
[22:35–22:40] well, here, here's lay down in swimming pools, here's flatline, we would really be trying
[22:40–22:44] to raise the bar, but that is really difficult when you've just come back together again.
[22:44–22:48] Like Shivon and I hadn't even been in this same room like since we were like 16 and I'd
[22:48–22:51] just come out of the other line up really a year and a half before then.
[22:51–22:52] Yeah.
[22:52–22:57] So I think that that was really, really hard, but I'm super proud of us because I actually
[22:57–23:02] think that those are the times that actually matter, not when everything's going perfect,
[23:02–23:07] but actually when you're going through things, like how can you guys stick together?
[23:07–23:12] I'm sure, because I remember it would be like there'd always be someone with us that
[23:12–23:15] was like, I can't, I'm not sure if I can do this anymore, it's too hard.
[23:15–23:19] Like there were just too many obstacles in the way, like they're just, you know, and
[23:19–23:24] I still think, you know, the lost tapes is what we ended up calling that record because
[23:24–23:29] it leaked at the time and we released it only about four years ago because we were like,
[23:29–23:31] that was such a great body of work.
[23:31–23:34] Like we really stand by and it was so proud of it.
[23:34–23:39] And we're like, God, how with that body of work was it that hard?
[23:39–23:45] It just blows our minds, but yeah, as Kenja said, like we just had to pull through.
[23:45–23:46] Had to just keep going.
[23:46–23:47] Yeah.
[23:47–23:48] Had to just keep going with it.
[23:48–23:52] And it's great that like now, the thing is when you go through those rough times, it's
[23:52–23:54] all about like a cherry on top.
[23:54–23:55] Yeah.
[23:55–23:58] And I think it was all worth it to bring us to sort of like where we are now.
[23:58–23:59] Yeah.
[23:59–24:02] And I'm glad that we didn't throw in the towel because we just, we just never know.
[24:02–24:03] Did you imagine that was the end of the story?
[24:03–24:04] I know.
[24:04–24:05] Yeah.
[24:05–24:10] Did you ever feel like there was times where you could have said, Oh, yeah, we all have
[24:10–24:11] it.
[24:11–24:12] Yeah.
[24:12–24:13] All of it.
[24:13–24:14] Yeah.
[24:14–24:15] Yeah.
[24:15–24:16] And the other two would be like, no, we've got this.
[24:16–24:17] Yeah.
[24:17–24:18] This will be, you know, there's light at the end of the tunnel.
[24:18–24:19] This is the darkest moment.
[24:19–24:22] And we, you know, go around circles and each other that every time someone needs to hear
[24:22–24:23] it.
[24:23–24:24] Yeah.
[24:24–24:27] At least you had each other to be able to tell each other that like, yeah, yeah.
[24:27–24:28] That's good.
[24:28–24:29] Yeah.
[24:29–24:32] And here's like, have a way now to like, that you know how each tree of his work and to
[24:32–24:35] reach out to cause even more friends work together.
[24:35–24:38] So like, do you like know each other's right like brains?
[24:38–24:41] And you know when someone needs to open and like just you work together really well.
[24:41–24:45] I feel like we definitely work together very well.
[24:45–24:48] I think that it's average because we're all very different.
[24:48–24:50] I think we've all had different experiences.
[24:50–24:51] Yes.
[24:51–24:53] So to be honest, we're constantly learning.
[24:53–24:58] We're constantly figuring out based upon our personal lives and what we go through our own
[24:58–25:00] individual boundaries and things like that.
[25:00–25:05] But it definitely isn't honest and pure relationship that we have with each other.
[25:05–25:10] And it's more just like with any relationship to you, it's like give and take.
[25:10–25:14] And I think we all know like when someone needs a second, you know, when someone needs
[25:14–25:17] some time or sometimes we're living on a bus together as well.
[25:17–25:21] Like, you know, it's like we're flatmates as well.
[25:21–25:22] Yeah.
[25:22–25:26] But gone other days of like pretending, you know, when we put the goblins together and
[25:26–25:29] it's like, we're happy all the time.
[25:29–25:32] And we get along all the time.
[25:32–25:35] And it's to be the other one to deserve it.
[25:35–25:37] Like, you know, I'm not retired.
[25:37–25:41] It's just about having, you know, having respect for each other and having boundaries.
[25:41–25:42] Yeah.
[25:42–25:45] And just knowing that, yeah, if someone needs their time to move.
[25:45–25:46] You know, yeah.
[25:46–25:48] And you're allowed to.
[25:48–25:49] Yeah.
[25:49–25:52] And life happens, you know, everyone goes through different things, family things, blah,
[25:52–25:53] blah, blah.
[25:53–25:54] Like life happens.
[25:54–25:56] And it's all about navigating that.
[25:56–26:00] I do think that we've done that exceptionally well because I just don't think this would
[26:00–26:02] have enabled to lots of other.
[26:02–26:03] Yeah.
[26:03–26:04] Yeah.
[26:04–26:08] I think we definitely have a great deal of patience with each other for sure.
[26:08–26:11] And yeah, we're just learning each other every day, like in any relationship.
[26:11–26:12] Yeah.
[26:12–26:15] You know, you're like, you know, you're learning about the sisters, the cousins, you're
[26:15–26:18] with it like, you know, always talking on like the goblins in front of me.
[26:18–26:22] And I don't know what people were expecting when we were turned up to these indie festivals
[26:22–26:23] like from three years ago.
[26:23–26:28] But like, we're like always on time, like don't really need very much, like we'll just be
[26:28–26:31] ready, like put our own in is in and we'll be like, you ready?
[26:31–26:32] No, no, no.
[26:32–26:33] We're really like sure.
[26:33–26:38] And so I think, you know, we've earned a reputation for ourselves, you know, behind the scenes
[26:38–26:44] as well as just like being a professional outfit that will bring it every single time.
[26:44–26:45] Yeah.
[26:45–26:46] But she's her own horn.
[26:46–26:47] Oh, she's not.
[26:47–26:48] Horn over here.
[26:48–26:50] We always give that 100%.
[26:50–26:51] Yeah.
[26:51–26:52] Yeah.
[26:52–26:53] No, you can get that from us.
[26:53–26:56] You don't have all together now in Ireland.
[26:56–26:57] Yeah.
[26:57–26:58] Yeah.
[26:58–26:59] Yeah, yeah.
[26:59–27:00] Great.
[27:00–27:00] And I'll live on the floor.
[27:00–27:02] Is that like, are you like doing it?
[27:02–27:04] I kind of like, I love it.
[27:04–27:06] Is it like, it teaches everything like,
[27:06–27:08] yeah, it teaches them, it teaches them.
[27:08–27:11] It's like when they're like,
[27:11–27:14] American like, RV like, looking things.
[27:14–27:15] Is that thing?
[27:15–27:16] They're probably damn bigger in better and better.
[27:16–27:18] Yeah, yeah.
[27:18–27:20] But it is really, yeah.
[27:20–27:21] 16 beds.
[27:21–27:23] Some of them are like 16 beds, so you got,
[27:23–27:25] you get a box of sleep at night and you're bound to.
[27:25–27:25] Yeah.
[27:25–27:27] You get wifi and all the likes,
[27:27–27:29] you get all of that kind of stuff, you know.
[27:29–27:31] I have like, how long of a time period
[27:31–27:33] cause you've been on a bus for?
[27:33–27:34] Well, about two, about five weeks.
[27:34–27:35] Yeah.
[27:35–27:37] But like, you know, often they've been like,
[27:37–27:38] do you want day rooms?
[27:38–27:41] Do you want to, you know, get off at the bus
[27:41–27:43] at four in the morning and check his battery.
[27:43–27:44] Oh, no.
[27:44–27:45] And check his battery.
[27:45–27:46] Yeah.
[27:46–27:48] And the coffee's good at the morning.
[27:48–27:49] And the coffee's great.
[27:49–27:50] Yeah.
[27:50–27:51] And nothing we're so used to like, you know,
[27:51–27:53] having fun nights at times, you know.
[27:53–27:55] Everything is very clean.
[27:55–27:56] Yeah.
[27:56–27:57] We're doing a face mask and anything.
[27:57–27:59] But that is really a good way.
[27:59–28:01] It's lovely, fine and perfect.
[28:01–28:02] Literally.
[28:02–28:03] And like, there's bad and it's showers and everything.
[28:03–28:04] There's no showers.
[28:04–28:05] No, no.
[28:05–28:06] Oh, yeah.
[28:06–28:10] So what we do is is like, you're, I guess we come off
[28:10–28:13] the bus in the morning or go to either a day room
[28:13–28:14] or go to the venue.
[28:14–28:17] And show us how it's stuff there.
[28:17–28:19] And then we go on stage, we come off exact same thing.
[28:19–28:21] Show up, put your jammies on back on the bus.
[28:21–28:22] Yeah.
[28:22–28:23] Get the reading.
[28:23–28:25] So I'm not supposed to sound too bad.
[28:25–28:27] It really is fun.
[28:27–28:28] Yeah.
[28:28–28:30] You have to drag your bags off and off.
[28:30–28:32] And then we bring our family on it's house and time.
[28:32–28:33] Yeah.
[28:33–28:34] Yeah.
[28:34–28:37] How is it like leaving your family when you're
[28:37–28:38] touring and doing politics?
[28:38–28:39] Is it?
[28:39–28:40] Yeah.
[28:40–28:41] Yeah.
[28:41–28:42] That's hard.
[28:42–28:43] Yeah.
[28:43–28:44] Because you're at any face time and all the time,
[28:44–28:45] kind of keep in contact that way.
[28:45–28:46] Yeah.
[28:46–28:47] It's her probably as well.
[28:47–28:50] Even that's hard for me with the age of my kids at the moment.
[28:50–28:51] Yes.
[28:51–28:53] I mean, you know, when it's festival season, it's like,
[28:53–28:55] I'm there 80% of the time.
[28:55–29:00] You know, I'm basically like working part times and works really well.
[29:00–29:01] I'm there during the week.
[29:01–29:04] My husband's there at the weekends when I'm off working.
[29:04–29:05] It's amazing.
[29:05–29:07] But like a tour like what we're about to do will be will be.
[29:07–29:08] We'll be tough.
[29:08–29:09] Yeah.
[29:09–29:10] Yeah.
[29:10–29:11] We'll be tough.
[29:11–29:12] Yeah.
[29:12–29:13] Yeah.
[29:13–29:14] So we miss each other.
[29:14–29:16] And how does it really react to having like famous model?
[29:16–29:17] How do they say?
[29:17–29:19] How do you explain that you're doing?
[29:19–29:20] Yeah.
[29:20–29:21] I'm really famous.
[29:21–29:22] Yeah.
[29:22–29:23] What do you?
[29:23–29:24] Well, they love coming to the show.
[29:24–29:30] Vivian's four and she's like, I'm not sure I want to come to the London show.
[29:30–29:32] She says, because I always fall asleep.
[29:32–29:33] Oh, no.
[29:33–29:34] Oh, no.
[29:34–29:35] Oh, wow.
[29:35–29:37] And four to seven and he's like, he loves it.
[29:37–29:38] He loves it.
[29:38–29:40] He sings along.
[29:40–29:41] He wants a t-shirt.
[29:41–29:42] Oh.
[29:42–29:43] Yeah.
[29:43–29:44] He just loves it.
[29:44–29:45] Isn't that so nice?
[29:45–29:46] Right.
[29:46–29:48] And imagine him school just telling everyone.
[29:48–29:49] Enough.
[29:49–29:50] Man, I'm so sugar-beeps.
[29:50–29:51] Man.
[29:51–29:53] Has there been, obviously, someone to your personal time has taken up with being in
[29:53–29:58] the band, started your personal time, but has there been a time where you've had to choose
[29:58–30:02] a personal moment over like professional and just been like, I have to do that instead.
[30:02–30:03] Like, yeah, definitely.
[30:03–30:04] Yeah.
[30:04–30:08] I mean, I did that when I had my daughter at one point when I had Tylea.
[30:08–30:13] So it was, it was hard because it was like the peak of sugar-beeps.
[30:13–30:14] Yeah.
[30:14–30:15] And you know, we had a lot going on.
[30:15–30:19] And right before we'd launch my dad died, right before we just came back again.
[30:19–30:22] So you've got to take that word, you know, you know.
[30:22–30:23] Yeah.
[30:23–30:27] You feel okay to ever just be like, I need my time off now.
[30:27–30:29] But I think we all understand each other.
[30:29–30:30] Yeah.
[30:30–30:32] Like, if we've all got something that's going on with the band, we hate letting each other
[30:32–30:33] down.
[30:33–30:34] Yeah, absolutely.
[30:34–30:35] But it is so that's really like that.
[30:35–30:36] It's a conversation.
[30:36–30:37] Yeah.
[30:37–30:43] But sometimes I feel like being on the road actually is almost like it really helps balance
[30:43–30:44] out.
[30:44–30:45] Yeah.
[30:45–30:48] Because I often think to myself, had I gone through like a lot of my grief and I didn't
[30:48–30:50] have the up moments, then you're just feeling down, down, down.
[30:50–30:51] Right.
[30:51–30:55] Actually, when you're on stage, it gives you this endorphin, like this feeling, this
[30:55–30:56] brush.
[30:56–30:59] And I think that, you know, that sort of was quite helpful for me.
[30:59–31:02] And do you still get that same like rush being on stage?
[31:02–31:03] Oh, yeah.
[31:03–31:04] Yeah.
[31:04–31:05] Never goes away.
[31:05–31:06] Yeah.
[31:06–31:07] And everyone will.
[31:07–31:08] I'm always, I always know another.
[31:08–31:09] Really?
[31:09–31:12] Like, yeah, the first thing I'm saying is, is there even anyone out there?
[31:12–31:13] That's the first question.
[31:13–31:14] But anyone comes.
[31:14–31:15] Yeah.
[31:15–31:16] And I still do it today.
[31:16–31:17] Yeah.
[31:17–31:18] Well, I think it's good though.
[31:18–31:22] Because as soon as I get on stage, I'm like, I'm ready for it.
[31:22–31:23] Yeah.
[31:23–31:24] Yeah.
[31:24–31:26] Maybe you knew before, if you thought before, I'd do psychracellia, it will probably
[31:26–31:27] more.
[31:27–31:28] You need a few butterflies.
[31:28–31:29] Yeah.
[31:29–31:33] I think that's not, I think if you ever said like, no, never easy.
[31:33–31:35] I don't really believe anyone that, yeah, I can't.
[31:35–31:36] But it's just like, I don't think I ever think.
[31:36–31:37] Yeah.
[31:37–31:40] If you like, as if you're not, you don't take it very seriously then.
[31:40–31:44] If you're just so easily able to, no, don't feel anything just going in and I'm going
[31:44–31:45] home.
[31:45–31:46] No, then.
[31:46–31:47] Yeah.
[31:47–31:48] I'm going to feel that.
[31:48–31:49] Oh, definitely.
[31:49–31:50] Yeah.
[31:50–31:51] No.
[31:51–31:52] Yeah.
[31:52–31:53] They would.
[31:53–31:54] What's your favourite song to perform?
[31:54–31:56] Do you have the same one or a different one?
[31:56–31:57] Oh, my one.
[31:57–31:58] Oh, couple of it.
[31:58–31:59] You like too lots.
[31:59–32:00] Too lots in you.
[32:00–32:01] Oh.
[32:01–32:02] I love too lots in you.
[32:02–32:03] Yeah.
[32:03–32:04] And the round always go.
[32:04–32:05] Oh, yeah.
[32:05–32:06] Same on things too.
[32:06–32:07] Yeah.
[32:07–32:12] I like overload because there's always like this dancing section where we kind of vibe
[32:12–32:13] out together.
[32:13–32:14] Yeah.
[32:14–32:15] And I really enjoy push the button.
[32:15–32:16] Yeah.
[32:16–32:17] Yeah.
[32:17–32:23] And then just as a song in general, up to your favourite, like not to perform, just one
[32:23–32:26] that like you like, that is my favour.
[32:26–32:29] I think it might be a new one that we've got.
[32:29–32:30] Ooh.
[32:30–32:33] Because we're not, I think we can say that we're not, I think we're just doing jungle on
[32:33–32:34] the channel.
[32:34–32:38] Yeah, there's another new one we're going to be doing on the channel.
[32:38–32:39] I don't know.
[32:39–32:43] I love this song, but until we perform it, that's what I can decide whether or not I like
[32:43–32:44] doing it out for way too.
[32:44–32:46] I never know, even until you've done it.
[32:46–32:50] I thought you never know what a song's going to sound like until you actually hear it yourself
[32:50–32:51] on the radio.
[32:51–32:52] Yeah.
[32:52–32:53] Yeah, that makes right.
[32:53–32:56] And I think it's also watching the crowds to see how they're reacting.
[32:56–32:59] Does that have a big impact on your songs, do you think?
[32:59–33:00] Yeah.
[33:00–33:01] Yeah.
[33:01–33:02] You can see and how we're proud, we'll take it.
[33:02–33:03] Yeah.
[33:03–33:04] Yeah.
[33:04–33:07] Because then you kind of know the next time round is it's something we want to put into
[33:07–33:09] the set or is it, you know, I think about it.
[33:09–33:11] But then I guess each crowd's difference.
[33:11–33:12] Yeah.
[33:12–33:13] Yeah.
[33:13–33:17] I guess I would say that Ireland's a best crowd, but are they actually do you think?
[33:17–33:19] Are people just saying they always have a bad name?
[33:19–33:20] They never had a bad name.
[33:20–33:21] They never had a bad name.
[33:21–33:22] They never had a bad name.
[33:22–33:23] I love that.
[33:23–33:24] Perfect.
[33:24–33:25] At least you can hold it.
[33:25–33:27] I feel like we just sing loud.
[33:27–33:28] Maybe not great sometimes.
[33:28–33:29] Maybe not.
[33:29–33:30] We're just real, do you but in the best way?
[33:30–33:31] Yeah.
[33:31–33:32] In the best way.
[33:32–33:36] I went to a Drake concert in Germany and I could hear Drake clearly.
[33:36–33:38] There was no one who was just quiet.
[33:38–33:39] No, no.
[33:39–33:40] I was in a live.
[33:40–33:41] I'll just sway and I was like, what's going on?
[33:41–33:43] I need to show you as a picture.
[33:43–33:45] You might remember this more.
[33:45–33:47] Okay, go on a little bit.
[33:47–33:48] What era?
[33:48–33:49] We're going back.
[33:49–33:50] Oh Lord, okay.
[33:50–33:51] You remember them?
[33:51–33:53] Oh, my God.
[33:53–33:55] That was the idea.
[33:55–33:56] You remember them?
[33:56–33:57] It was.
[33:57–33:58] I remember the hair style.
[33:58–34:00] Yeah, too.
[34:00–34:01] Yeah.
[34:01–34:02] For the fact that you're selling them on eBay.
[34:02–34:03] Really?
[34:03–34:04] Yeah.
[34:04–34:05] According to your eBay today.
[34:05–34:06] Okay.
[34:06–34:07] I'm wonderful.
[34:07–34:08] Get that just for the memorabilia.
[34:08–34:10] I remember being in school and I was just being like, pulling up and whiffing it out.
[34:10–34:11] It would be like an iPod.
[34:11–34:12] Oh, yeah.
[34:12–34:13] Yeah.
[34:13–34:14] So funny.
[34:14–34:20] There's obviously a lot of pressure to look and act a certain way for everyone, but especially
[34:20–34:23] when someone's in the spotlight, what does that feel like to begin with?
[34:23–34:27] Do you think now it's easier because you're in the industry so long or is it still hard
[34:27–34:29] with press and social media and things like that?
[34:29–34:35] I think that we consciously stay away from particular subjects because I think regardless
[34:35–34:39] of what you say, people sometimes are waiting for you to have an opinion on something.
[34:39–34:44] Just so that they can be like, aha, you know, and drag you through.
[34:44–34:47] So I feel like definitely there are things that, you know, we definitely don't touch on,
[34:47–34:52] but I think for the most part, the older we get, the less we actually care about, you
[34:52–34:54] know, what people say.
[34:54–34:55] Yeah.
[34:55–34:56] We definitely care about what people say for sure.
[34:56–35:02] But for me personally, I've like pretty much like years ago, I've told everyone in my
[35:02–35:05] life that I don't really want to know about anything good or bad.
[35:05–35:07] So I don't want to know about any articles.
[35:07–35:08] Love that.
[35:08–35:09] I don't read comments.
[35:09–35:12] Obviously we know as Instagram you open up, you'll see a flood of comments and stuff.
[35:12–35:15] I actually post and then I go do and I don't.
[35:15–35:16] Yeah.
[35:16–35:21] So I actually, even when we post on our group page and we're all tags, that for me can
[35:21–35:24] be a little bit stressful sometimes because I'm seeing everything.
[35:24–35:25] Yeah.
[35:25–35:27] Where's my actual comments are monitored.
[35:27–35:30] So even on Twitter, I don't get any sort of feedback.
[35:30–35:34] So I'll tweet and maybe like the four people that I've seen for about the last ten years.
[35:34–35:35] Yeah.
[35:35–35:36] Well, I'm a reply.
[35:36–35:39] I think through though, because it can not be confident.
[35:39–35:40] Oh, yeah.
[35:40–35:44] And also, I think that the thing that we can do is just do our very best.
[35:44–35:45] Yeah.
[35:45–35:49] Always do your very best and if you're happy with it, that is all that matters.
[35:49–35:50] Yeah.
[35:50–35:53] And I think even if someone said you're amazing 50 times, it's always the one that you're
[35:53–35:54] going to pick.
[35:54–35:57] If the one by is not going to be, it will focus in on all the time.
[35:57–35:58] Yeah.
[35:58–35:59] Yeah.
[35:59–36:00] There is pretty much going to be like so many.
[36:00–36:04] lovely messages and then the one is like, it's things.
[36:04–36:06] Yeah, it might be something in our brain.
[36:06–36:07] Yeah, it's on our one.
[36:07–36:08] It is.
[36:08–36:09] It doesn't do anything to me.
[36:09–36:10] I know.
[36:10–36:11] Really?
[36:11–36:14] You've got to know how to hear each every time I hear this.
[36:14–36:15] I'll just think.
[36:15–36:21] Yeah, I just think I'm going to make myself look and sound the best I can on that day.
[36:21–36:23] And I'm going to give it my all.
[36:23–36:24] Yeah.
[36:24–36:25] That's the best I've got.
[36:25–36:26] And it's not good enough.
[36:26–36:28] That's sort of like your problem.
[36:28–36:29] Yeah.
[36:29–36:31] I'm honestly how I think about you.
[36:31–36:32] I've done my bit.
[36:32–36:33] I've done my bit.
[36:33–36:38] And you know, and stand as for women in particular, just impossible.
[36:38–36:39] I can't reach it.
[36:39–36:40] I can't reach it.
[36:40–36:43] If you want a supermodel, there's so many amazing supermodels out there.
[36:43–36:45] I'm all of them.
[36:45–36:46] Support them.
[36:46–36:47] I'm not supermodel.
[36:47–36:48] No, I do.
[36:48–36:50] So it's, you know, to be honest, I do have it.
[36:50–36:51] I do have it.
[36:51–36:53] I do get so many beautiful comments on people.
[36:53–36:56] Yeah, and basically, everyone is just so lovely.
[36:56–36:57] Yeah.
[36:57–36:59] And why do people put negative comments?
[36:59–37:01] Because they probably don't feel very good about themselves.
[37:01–37:04] It doesn't make sense anyway.
[37:04–37:06] You know, you've got such a horrible thing to say.
[37:06–37:08] Why would you even want to put in a sense?
[37:08–37:10] No, no one normal says it online.
[37:10–37:11] You just go with your friend.
[37:11–37:13] Put it in your group chat.
[37:13–37:14] Yeah.
[37:14–37:15] I'll try.
[37:15–37:16] Yeah.
[37:16–37:17] Yeah.
[37:17–37:18] And for effort for those right.
[37:18–37:20] So you're new single jungle.
[37:20–37:22] What was the inspiration behind that?
[37:22–37:23] Right.
[37:23–37:24] I love it by the way.
[37:24–37:28] I think the last song we put out was kind of more mid tempo.
[37:28–37:30] It was a vocal harmony moment.
[37:30–37:32] And so we wanted to do a buff and something up tempo.
[37:32–37:37] And then in terms of like the lyrical content, we wanted to do something that was like,
[37:37–37:43] you know, everyone's got their nine to five, the grind to like, you know, make ends meet.
[37:43–37:45] Everyone needs to let their head down.
[37:45–37:47] And it's exactly about letting them.
[37:47–37:50] Is the lyrical process of stuff like that heard?
[37:50–37:53] Like, no, if you're in the room with the right people.
[37:53–37:56] No, it can come just flows.
[37:56–37:57] Yeah.
[37:57–37:58] How exciting was that thing?
[37:58–38:01] And you're doing two shows in Ireland?
[38:01–38:02] Yes.
[38:02–38:06] So you have Vell fast on the 19th of April and through your inner Dublin on the 20th of April.
[38:06–38:08] And you're kind of in love.
[38:08–38:09] So exciting.
[38:09–38:10] So exciting.
[38:10–38:11] Yeah.
[38:11–38:14] So have you spent a lot of time in Ireland over the last few years?
[38:14–38:15] Yeah.
[38:15–38:16] Yeah.
[38:16–38:17] Yeah.
[38:17–38:18] We've been here quite a few years.
[38:18–38:21] Is there a pop of food or drink that you've had since you were here?
[38:21–38:22] Like one of the spring's wine.
[38:22–38:23] Is it a vinic?
[38:23–38:24] You know, there's that club that we do.
[38:24–38:26] We've been here a couple of times too.
[38:26–38:28] So you're home to one of your cousins.
[38:28–38:29] Home.
[38:29–38:30] Health.
[38:30–38:31] Health.
[38:31–38:32] In Dublin.
[38:32–38:33] Oh, yeah.
[38:33–38:34] We went there.
[38:34–38:35] Sorry, my name is Vell.
[38:35–38:36] Vell.
[38:36–38:40] My cousin, Lairn Dunne, who sorted out our after party one night there.
[38:40–38:41] Oh, yeah.
[38:41–38:42] Yeah.
[38:42–38:43] I was good.
[38:43–38:45] And have your side of spice bag yet?
[38:45–38:46] Who's that?
[38:46–38:47] Oh, my girl.
[38:47–38:48] Spice bag.
[38:48–38:49] Spice bag.
[38:49–38:52] What you also know that the word spice bag is in the
[38:52–38:55] dictionary now that I just introduced you.
[38:55–38:56] What is it?
[38:56–39:01] It's a twist on like Chinese cuisine, but like apparently we only have to
[39:01–39:02] in Ireland.
[39:02–39:06] So it's your chips, your chicken, all your edge or everything in a bag.
[39:06–39:07] In England, they come in.
[39:07–39:09] In a use call it salt and pepper chicken from the
[39:09–39:10] front.
[39:10–39:11] Oh, yeah.
[39:11–39:14] Here it's called salt and chili, but it's a mix of salt and chili chicken and
[39:14–39:15] chips in a bag.
[39:15–39:17] Oh, so we need this by the way.
[39:17–39:18] Oh, what's the sauce?
[39:18–39:19] Coriander.
[39:19–39:20] Coriander.
[39:20–39:21] Coriander.
[39:21–39:22] Coriander.
[39:22–39:23] Coriander.
[39:23–39:24] Coriander.
[39:24–39:25] Coriander, yeah.
[39:25–39:26] I think the white show that is on the edge.
[39:26–39:28] And where are we going to get this?
[39:28–39:29] Ooh, depends very about it in Dublin.
[39:29–39:30] Everything is on the edge.
[39:30–39:31] I think.
[39:31–39:32] I think the cyan tie.
[39:32–39:33] Yeah.
[39:33–39:34] The cyan tie.
[39:34–39:35] Ok.
[39:35–39:36] Everyone gets them on the ground.
[39:36–39:37] Right, OK.
[39:37–39:38] Yes.
[39:38–39:39] It's not impossible to get.
[39:39–39:40] Oh, no.
[39:40–39:41] No, no.
[39:41–39:42] We don't like to live a room.
[39:42–39:43] We're just in our soil.
[39:43–39:46] Oh, before you leave, you just have to get a spice bag.
[39:46–39:47] Yes.
[39:47–39:51] We have a section based on our podcast where we asked for advice.
[39:51–39:53] Are we asking advice? Someone asked her advice.
[39:53–39:57] So it's called phone a friend. So you should be get people in that are from our Instagram page,
[39:57–40:02] but you're going to be the friend today. Okay. Okay. So hey girls, love the pod. I need some advice.
[40:02–40:07] I've developed a massive crush on a guy in my office. We work on different teams. We always have
[40:07–40:11] the crack when we see each other. The problem he has the girlfriend. He's never done anything
[40:11–40:14] inappropriate, but there's definitely chemistry and sometimes I feel like he lures back.
[40:14–40:19] I know it's wrong to even have to say an idea, but I can't help hoping something might happen.
[40:19–40:23] Am I a bad person free in this way? Should I back off completely? Or is it her amnesty as long as I
[40:23–40:31] don't act on it? I'm telling you. It's hard. I mean, if you're, if it's, why am I worried?
[40:31–40:39] Why am I worried? No, I should get a gift. Well, I think we're, I think that men and women need to
[40:39–40:44] be around here and have it because I was watching this thing the other day and it was about chemistry.
[40:44–40:49] And sometimes you can confuse the chemistry that you have with someone with romance.
[40:49–40:54] Okay. And actually because sometimes it is an attractive thing if someone's like,
[40:54–40:59] you know, if you like the kind of guy that comes in and he knows what he wants or, you know,
[40:59–41:02] you like the kind of girl who comes in and cares about everyone in the room. You're like,
[41:02–41:08] oh, this is quite attractive. You know, we would be foolish to think that you getting a
[41:08–41:12] relationship with someone and the same attributes that you love about them isn't in any other human
[41:12–41:20] being. Yeah. Yeah. However, that means there. What I'm landing it is that there is a huge
[41:20–41:24] difference between acting on something. There's nothing wrong with chemistry or,
[41:24–41:28] I mean, if I'm unattractive like this, friendship is good looking. Yeah. I do think that there
[41:28–41:36] is a line and obviously, yeah. So I would say, I think we'd all say, is he a choice?
[41:36–41:41] He has a very good acting style. I mean, you wave it out and he's the one he
[41:41–41:46] is. Friendship is okay to have. Yeah. It's nothing wrong with girls and guys having
[41:46–41:50] friends. Yeah. And you should and it could just literally be chemistry as well as
[41:50–41:54] like real. Yeah. But also you can't you can't help who you are attracted to. So she's doing
[41:54–41:59] absolutely nothing wrong. And kind of neither is he. He'll just have to figure out his situation.
[41:59–42:05] It's not. It's not even a situation because he's probably just a friendly flirt.
[42:05–42:12] Friend of my self. I'm a friend. I'm a friend. I'm a friend. I'm a friend. Yeah. I don't like you.
[42:12–42:17] No. But I don't mind. But I'm making you feel good for a hot second. That was great.
[42:17–42:21] Right? That was fine. That was almost for your time. Girls been amazing. Thank you.
[42:25–42:30] So obviously, we had the help of the sugar waves from round of friends. Unfortunately for
[42:30–42:36] Seeks and Stalls, he's just have us. Sorry guys. Sorry. Sorry. Imagine the person that wrote
[42:36–42:39] in the phone for an dilemma. Just get the sugar waves. Yeah. And sugar waves.
[42:39–42:42] Vice. Ah. Pretty cute. You want to take that vice.
[42:42–42:46] And so Seeks and Stalls, we do every week. We want to help you with any advice you have.
[42:46–42:48] Kind of the conversations you have with girls in the matchroom.
[42:48–42:53] A nightclub where you just spilled beans. Yeah. A random girl's in the nightclub.
[42:53–42:58] I'm a fan. Do you want to have my favourite hot? Yeah. Or as we both work your best friends.
[42:58–43:01] We tell you things you need to hear. Share Seeks and advice. I'm giving you the real talk.
[43:01–43:06] So it's called Seek It's From The Stalls. Bottom Stalls. So this is this week's.
[43:06–43:11] This is quite long. So keep your ears peeled. I've been with my boyfriend for a couple years.
[43:11–43:16] We live together and everything between us is great. But he's not the problem. It's his mom.
[43:16–43:21] Oh no. She has a way of involving herself into every part of our lives. After making
[43:21–43:27] comments that feel unnecessary or like subtle digs. For example, we boat work on site every day.
[43:27–43:30] No work from home. She'd asked you want to end things in the shop. And if he says yes,
[43:30–43:34] she'll respond. Could I, and brackets me, not have gotten out of my way home,
[43:34–43:37] even though she was the one who asked if we needed anything in the first place.
[43:37–43:40] We don't live with her. So she'd go out of her way to drop it in to us.
[43:40–43:44] It's like she always finds a way to turn things into a criticism. Another time I was sick and she
[43:44–43:48] actually suggested that I should move out temporarily so I wouldn't get him sick, which honestly
[43:48–43:53] really reminds. Then there's a constant phone call sometimes 15 times a day. Often about
[43:53–43:57] nothing urgent, but always at times when she knows we're together. Like when he gets out from
[43:57–44:00] work or when we're about to have dinner. It feels like she's always making sure she's present
[44:00–44:05] in some way. I try bring an old buddy either brush it off or says she's just joking even when it's
[44:05–44:09] obvious that there's more to it. It's made me feel like I'm the problem for even mentioning it,
[44:09–44:14] but same time I can't stop thinking about it. Like is this just an extreme case of mommy's boy?
[44:14–44:18] Am I overreacting or is there something deeper going on here? Would love to hear your thoughts
[44:18–44:26] and any suggestions basically what should I do? Like that's the sound that even terrifies me.
[44:26–44:32] Like is this shivers? Like how can you be like that? I think like a mommy's boy or a mommy's boy
[44:32–44:38] or whatever. I think they're the boys are aware of. Yeah. They know when they're a mommy's boy.
[44:38–44:43] Whereas in this case I don't know if he's actually aware of like what's going on. If he's just like
[44:43–44:46] I got a shunny joke and they're like yeah a mommy's boy is like when they know what's
[44:46–44:50] it but when then there's like the moms who are like everyone's too good or my son's too good
[44:50–44:56] for her. Yeah. They're like too good for everyone. Like that's crazy. Something like this is just
[44:56–45:00] going to blow up into a big put it all in a cow. Can you blow it off? Of course walking you actually
[45:00–45:02] you start the arrogant over your mom calls you?
[45:02–45:04] Your mom's obsessed, you freak.
[45:04–45:06] That's why there's a grotto.
[45:06–45:08] Yeah, like, tell your mom to fuck off.
[45:08–45:12] Like, what do you say? Cause she's not actually doing anything bad that you could actually
[45:12–45:14] start. Like, have a conversation over.
[45:14–45:16] You could say why do you run cally all the time? What's that gonna do?
[45:16–45:18] He's gonna make M, I don't know.
[45:18–45:20] You're not gonna say to the mom why do you call him all the time?
[45:20–45:23] So what? I don't know what the end goal is.
[45:23–45:25] Or end.
[45:25–45:28] Say your mom's obsessed with you, you need to...
[45:28–45:31] Well, I think she just needs to explain how it's making horror feel.
[45:31–45:37] That like, she feels like it's only when they're supposed to down and have dinner or she feels like...
[45:37–45:39] she's making sliding. That's just how she feels.
[45:39–45:41] She's allowed to have those feelings.
[45:41–45:42] Yeah.
[45:42–45:46] So I think if she just lets him know that's the way it's making her feel.
[45:46–45:47] Yeah.
[45:47–45:49] That might not be true. It might not be the case at all.
[45:49–45:51] It might be like, you know what I mean?
[45:51–45:54] But you're entitled to have feelings.
[45:54–45:56] And so like, if that is the way it's gone.
[45:56–45:58] I just don't know what...
[45:58–46:02] Okay, she sets her feelings. The boyfriends are like, oh my god, sorry, feel that way.
[46:02–46:05] What he's gonna do? Sorry, mom, stop calling me out this time.
[46:05–46:07] I just don't know how this is going to...
[46:07–46:10] I think this might be one of the things where like, you'd have to leave her or leave her.
[46:10–46:11] Oh, leave her or love her?
[46:11–46:13] Like, leave her or just be...
[46:13–46:16] as in leave him or live with this.
[46:16–46:17] Oh my god.
[46:17–46:20] Because I don't see the mom's not gonna be like, okay, so one call you that many times.
[46:20–46:23] Like the mom wants to have an argument with that girl.
[46:23–46:24] Yeah.
[46:24–46:26] Maybe it's test.
[46:26–46:28] And the teller to move her because she's sick?
[46:28–46:29] Great.
[46:29–46:30] Don't I just get my son sick?
[46:30–46:33] How about you fuck off her few days? I was wee.
[46:33–46:34] What?
[46:34–46:35] I get sick on purpose.
[46:35–46:36] I just don't tell her.
[46:36–46:37] How is it?
[46:37–46:38] How is it?
[46:38–46:40] How is the way of getting this...
[46:40–46:41] Tell him how you feel.
[46:41–46:42] Yeah.
[46:42–46:44] Bring it up so he's aware of it.
[46:44–46:47] Mention your times when you have evidence of this happening.
[46:47–46:48] Yeah.
[46:48–46:51] But maybe like, sure, I said, don't be expected anywhere else because...
[46:51–46:53] Yeah, you only get one mother.
[46:53–46:54] Yeah.
[46:54–46:56] Sometimes they're not great like this one.
[46:56–47:00] I'm watching you go to like a character and you're gonna be like, oh I'll back off, sorry.
[47:00–47:01] Yeah.
[47:01–47:03] It's kind of really makes things worse.
[47:03–47:04] If only.
[47:04–47:07] Well he could say it in a way like, can yourself call it my phone I'm really busy also.
[47:07–47:11] 15 times a day, there's no, there's no, there's no need for anyone that many times.
[47:11–47:12] That's not anyone that many times.
[47:12–47:14] What do you even say after that many times, hey, hey?
[47:14–47:16] How have you still got to talk?
[47:16–47:18] Yeah, what have you got to say?
[47:18–47:21] I think I don't care of reacting, I think your feelings are so valid.
[47:21–47:27] I don't feel the same, but I just don't know if anything could change there.
[47:27–47:30] But I think saying it to him and saying every word is the first step.
[47:30–47:31] It's the first step.
[47:31–47:32] Yeah.
[47:32–47:35] Because it's like, you can't tell someone not to be there, not to be there, more there like that.
[47:35–47:37] Don't like your man, but you can't.
[47:37–47:38] You can't.
[47:38–47:40] Yeah, pull out, it's no, an update.
[47:40–47:43] We are also gonna be introducing new segments soon if you have any bedroom dilemmas.
[47:43–47:45] So like anything at all.
[47:45–47:48] What should I say last week was into my head and I think it's humidifier.
[47:48–47:49] Oh yeah.
[47:49–47:50] Yeah, yeah, humidifier.
[47:50–47:51] I don't know why.
[47:51–47:52] In the bedroom.
[47:52–47:53] Yeah.
[47:53–47:57] It's meant to be something sexy and saucy and I'm thinking where to put the humidifier into
[47:57–47:58] the room.
[47:58–48:03] And you can send them in to us or if there's anyone in your life that you think might be shown
[48:03–48:07] right flag, you let us know what it is and we'll decide so it can be ending from like some
[48:07–48:08] really obvious to something niche.
[48:08–48:10] We can be like, yeah, that's right flag.
[48:10–48:15] Sometimes it is the little niche things that are dorks and they'll be coming soon.
[48:15–48:17] We're also gonna end with peak and bleakie the week.
[48:17–48:19] We should have got the sugar mave to do this.
[48:19–48:20] Oh yeah.
[48:20–48:24] I really hope they go get spice like same and try it and do a video like I really think they
[48:24–48:25] didn't enjoy it.
[48:25–48:26] They would.
[48:26–48:27] And they haven't even heard of it.
[48:27–48:28] No, they're like, what's that salt and pepper?
[48:28–48:29] What you know, like no, but that's a bit.
[48:29–48:30] Yeah, that's it.
[48:30–48:31] Why do they call that though?
[48:31–48:32] There's no pepper on it.
[48:32–48:33] No pepper in it.
[48:33–48:34] I don't understand.
[48:34–48:37] I remember going on and I was like, what like there's no such thing as salt and chili.
[48:37–48:38] And that's spice.
[48:38–48:39] I know I'm actually craving one.
[48:39–48:40] Yeah, same.
[48:40–48:41] I'm actually talking about it.
[48:41–48:42] So we're gonna pick one high and one low.
[48:42–48:43] So we're gonna pick one high and one low.
[48:44–48:46] So peak being our high and bleak being our low the week.
[48:46–48:47] And it's only rice.
[48:47–48:49] So we get the negative out of the way first.
[48:49–48:50] So bleak of the week.
[48:50–48:55] My bleak is that I am nearly convinced I'm getting to unslide us.
[48:55–48:56] Yay!
[48:56–48:57] Has it gotten worse?
[48:57–48:58] No, it's just still there.
[48:58–49:00] I can see it every time I open it.
[49:00–49:01] Oh yeah.
[49:01–49:02] Not good.
[49:02–49:03] Like just swirling.
[49:03–49:06] Yeah, it's like two tennis balls in my neck.
[49:06–49:07] So that's brilliant.
[49:07–49:08] It's really, really good.
[49:08–49:09] Yeah.
[49:09–49:10] That's bleak.
[49:10–49:11] And I had someone text.
[49:11–49:15] And they were like, oh, I got mine out at like 29 or something.
[49:15–49:16] Like maybe go and do that.
[49:16–49:17] Yeah, Gordon pay me.
[49:17–49:18] Oh, it's not too much.
[49:18–49:19] I ain't just as it is.
[49:19–49:22] It's like, yeah, my brother, my brother Jack was in hospital.
[49:22–49:23] Yeah, every other hospital.
[49:23–49:25] He got, um, Quincy.
[49:25–49:26] Quincy, it's got, yeah.
[49:26–49:27] I had to get a tonsils of...
[49:27–49:28] Yeah.
[49:28–49:29] Oh yeah, he got it after that.
[49:29–49:31] I only know that length, like that girl in the hospital
[49:31–49:33] and I was in there once and she had Quincy.
[49:33–49:34] Oh really?
[49:34–49:37] And I remember looking at her opening up, I was like, what's that?
[49:37–49:38] Looks it up.
[49:38–49:41] Tonsils are literally in the Google, let me just don't look it up.
[49:41–49:42] Tonsils are like touching.
[49:42–49:45] Oh yeah, they told Jack like his airways.
[49:45–49:46] Our clothes.
[49:46–49:47] Yeah.
[49:47–49:48] We're clothes.
[49:48–49:49] Yeah.
[49:49–49:50] We need to do something here.
[49:50–49:52] So maybe it's just something that runs in the family.
[49:52–49:53] So that's my lovely shoes.
[49:53–49:54] Yeah.
[49:54–49:55] Um, my bleak.
[49:55–49:56] I don't know.
[49:56–49:57] I don't think we have one.
[49:57–49:59] If we don't have one, then don't make one up because we're in a good week.
[49:59–50:00] No, let one of us go in a week.
[50:00–50:01] Oh, actually.
[50:01–50:02] Well, I got my period.
[50:02–50:03] That's pretty bleak.
[50:03–50:04] That is pretty bleak.
[50:04–50:05] And the day before I was on a rampage.
[50:05–50:06] Oh, just so annoyed at everything.
[50:06–50:07] And then I was like, oh, that makes sense.
[50:07–50:08] Sorry, Dano.
[50:08–50:09] Being crazy.
[50:09–50:10] I love when it clicked.
[50:10–50:11] No, I wasn't crazy, Dano.
[50:11–50:12] I just create annoyed at like traffic.
[50:12–50:13] Oh, as if I can.
[50:13–50:14] Just anything and everything.
[50:14–50:15] Everything.
[50:15–50:16] Yeah.
[50:16–50:17] Okay.
[50:17–50:18] And I think it happens.
[50:18–50:19] It has to be this week.
[50:19–50:20] Yeah.
[50:20–50:21] Yeah.
[50:21–50:22] We can have the same one this week.
[50:22–50:23] Yeah.
[50:23–50:24] Yeah.
[50:24–50:25] Yeah.
[50:25–50:26] It has to be this week.
[50:26–50:27] Oh, fun.
[50:27–50:28] I'm just set as out.
[50:28–50:29] Yeah.
[50:29–50:30] Yeah.
[50:30–50:31] I got my hair done.
[50:31–50:32] I'm going to wear it.
[50:32–50:33] I'm going to wear it.
[50:33–50:34] Yeah.
[50:34–50:35] That's beautiful.
[50:35–50:36] Yeah.
[50:36–50:37] I'm going to belt them out on the way home now.
[50:37–50:38] Same.
[50:38–50:41] You know when you meet someone you actually end up like in the more like the earth is more
[50:41–50:42] I feel like.
[50:42–50:43] Yeah.
[50:43–50:44] Like it's just like I'm going to sound nice.
[50:44–50:47] I can just still picture a little me in my primary school uniform.
[50:47–50:48] Yeah.
[50:48–50:49] Dan's into freak like me.
[50:49–50:50] No need for that.
[50:50–50:52] I was lyrics week when I was able to tell you yourself.
[50:52–50:53] No.
[50:53–50:54] But we don't realize.
[50:54–50:55] No, no, no.
[50:55–50:56] It's like we are using Britney Spears.
[50:56–50:57] I'm a slave for you.
[50:57–50:58] I'm a slave for you.
[50:58–50:59] I think I'm going to think about that.
[50:59–51:00] It was.
[51:00–51:01] It's like someone's lyrics we were all singing.
[51:01–51:02] I think it's like a milkshake.
[51:02–51:03] Bring that out.
[51:03–51:04] Bring that out.
[51:04–51:05] I thought I was going to milkshake.
[51:05–51:06] Oh, it's literally about.
[51:06–51:07] Oh, the milkshake was below.
[51:07–51:08] Yeah.
[51:08–51:09] I know.
[51:09–51:10] Yeah.
[51:10–51:11] I know.
[51:11–51:12] Yeah.
[51:12–51:13] Fuck.
[51:13–51:14] Yeah.
[51:14–51:15] Um, guys, that's a strategy.
[51:15–51:16] Thank you so much for listening.
[51:16–51:18] Thanks again to the Sugar Waves.
[51:18–51:19] Their concert in Dublin is 23.
[51:19–51:20] It's quite fun.
[51:20–51:21] And very fast.
[51:21–51:22] The 19th.
[51:22–51:23] I will still take it's available.
[51:23–51:24] Yeah.
[51:24–51:25] As of today.
[51:25–51:30] You can go back and listen to around set itself from Monday, Harvard, drink, extra juice.
[51:30–51:32] And our full video with her is day 12.
[51:32–51:33] You have to watch a full video.
[51:33–51:34] You have to watch a full video.
[51:34–51:35] It's the whole new set.
[51:35–51:36] It's not new set.
[51:36–51:37] That's all right for today.
[51:37–51:38] Yeah.
[51:38–51:39] I wish it was a permanent new set.
[51:39–51:40] Definitely not.
[51:40–51:43] If you've never been to a live show actually, this gives you a little glimpse into it.
[51:43–51:44] Yeah.
[51:44–51:45] These are a special live show.
[51:45–51:46] Okay, which is.
[51:46–51:47] You sat on these.
[51:47–51:48] I'm trending one.
[51:48–51:49] Here we add last.
[51:49–51:50] Um, Garron.
[51:50–51:51] Garron noon.
[51:51–51:52] Yeah.
[51:52–51:53] Sat on these.
[51:53–51:54] Yeah.
[51:54–51:56] Um, we had Neve upon it.
[51:56–51:57] Yeah.
[51:57–51:58] Sat on this chair.
[51:58–51:59] A place got.
[51:59–52:00] Yeah.
[52:00–52:01] I'm going to put in this chair.
[52:01–52:06] But yeah, make sure to like, rate, subscribe to the podcast and we will talk to you next week.
[52:06–52:07] Love you.
[52:07–52:08] Bye.